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disgraceful behaviour by anne tolley
At the latest PPTA executive meeting the ignorant Anne Tolley implied that all teachers should receive a pay cut to pay for support staff. Even more insulting was that she then proceeded to greatly offend the whole professional body of the teaching profession by reading a children's story book to the delegation about a rat who should be grateful for what he already has and to expect no more. Is this the behaviour of a government minister for education to insult one of the most professional and established of all unions. I am ashamed to say that she is from Hawke's Bay. What is The Labour Party Response to such disgusting behaviour? What a jerk she is and how can the Teaching Profession grow under such an unsympathetic and insensitive minister who has no regard for teachers whatsoever?
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Permalink Reply by john marshall on -
Having left school at 14 yrs old I am gratefull for the education our sons and now our grandsons have recieved from the State education and its teachers. only twice have we been concerned and one was an ACT member and one a rank Tory. Teachers have my full support .Now! Having said that the fact remains that there must have been many of the present teachers who voted for this lot we have now. Im hoping they will realise the error of their ways and now return to Labour . It will be interesting to see how many do. Having said that Labour must woo the present teachers , Education spokes people need to get round the State schools and get our message out. I have no doubt that Tolley has an agenda and it will be to get as much money as she can to the private school system .The 35 million is just a start . Just wait and see.
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Permalink Reply by maria joan bernadette leyden on -
I agree I could not believe that teachers voted for the Nats, with the pathetic excuse of 'Oh we need a change' Are people really that stupid. I agree also that we need to start getting our grass roots votes back and I believe that teachers are already regretting the error of their ways. Only last week in our staff room, i was heard sayinw, 'well you did vote for this lot so stop moaning' on numerous occasions. I mean they are already stuffing up with acc and the like. Yes Tolley does want the private schools to benefit. What I find ironic is that she went to a state school in Napier and was not bright enough to pass school cert, nuff said eh!
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Permalink Reply by David Kearns on -
Ann Tolley's approach to the PPTA and to the wider education portfolio has been shameful and has shown both a lack of respect and ability to do her job as minister. I would expect that in the next reshuffle she will find herself in a different area all together.
Rather than improve teaching as a whole she has in fact taken essential parts of learning for kiwi kids and binned them, like science and physical education.
Teachers are some of the most important people that our children get to know and benefit from and teachers deserve better, including recognition of long service .
Children develop at their own pace in schools. So for National to come up with a score card system to tell parents where their kids are at in school will only put the wrong type of pressure on teachers, parents and kids alike. What is really needed is a curriculum that includes all the elements that help to build good and decent young New Zealanders.
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Permalink Reply by john marshall on
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Well take it from this old godger Maria Joan. Im certain that we have some right old plonkers out there . For years I just not understood how working people , both professional and bue collar would vote for Conservative Right Wing parties. Im amazed that people will make excuses for Tory worker bashing yet condem any unpopular move by Left wing parties.
I think we are a bit to blame because we do not push our message and we miss oportunities , like for instance the recent lock outs where no Labour presence was seen. We need to work and demand our MPs get out to our voters NOW!
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Permalink Reply by matt muldoon on -
Yawn same old commie rant.
john marshall said:Well take it from this old godger Maria Joan. Im certain that we have some right old plonkers out there . For years I just not understood how working people , both professional and bue collar would vote for Conservative Right Wing parties. Im amazed that people will make excuses for Tory worker bashing yet condem any unpopular move by Left wing parties.
I think we are a bit to blame because we do not push our message and we miss oportunities , like for instance the recent lock outs where no Labour presence was seen. We need to work and demand our MPs get out to our voters NOW!
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Permalink Reply by maria joan bernadette leyden on
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Well, we could do with more commie ranters in this party and get back to basics, we would then get some votes back eh ?
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Permalink Reply by maria joan bernadette leyden on
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here here
David Kearns said:Ann Tolley's approach to the PPTA and to the wider education portfolio has been shameful and has shown both a lack of respect and ability to do her job as minister. I would expect that in the next reshuffle she will find herself in a different area all together.
Rather than improve teaching as a whole she has in fact taken essential parts of learning for kiwi kids and binned them, like science and physical education.
Teachers are some of the most important people that our children get to know and benefit from and teachers deserve better, including recognition of long service .
Children develop at their own pace in schools. So for National to come up with a score card system to tell parents where their kids are at in school will only put the wrong type of pressure on teachers, parents and kids alike. What is really needed is a curriculum that includes all the elements that help to build good and decent young New Zealanders.
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Permalink Reply by Ros Powell on
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She has now threatened to sack school Boards if they support their principals/staff in their actions against national standards. How fascist is that! And such arrogance! First of all there's no consultation with educators around national standards, then she refuses to listen to them, now she won't allow them to be trialled.
Let us not forget: Over the last three Labour terms, teaching standards and teacher pedagogy improved more than any other time in our history. We worked incredibly hard to raise standards of literacy & numeracy ( particularly in low decile schools with lots of ESOL students) , to get our schools IT-literate and to ensure our kids were fit - helped by government teaching contracts. Teachers, support staff and principals' salaries became more competitive with the "outside world". Anne Tolley's actions are overturning every gain Labour instigated.
And, as an aside, I wonder if there's anything to measure how much the millions of dollars she's taken from state schools has improved the academic standards of private schools?
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Permalink Reply by Matt Belcher on -
Sometimes people shouldnt threaten to do things they cant back up. If the minister of Education had to sack 100 boards of trustees you can imagine the media backlash upon her and National. Even 20 would be egg on her face.
Im not sure how telling someoen that they are above or below average will help the education of kids, but it will tell us which schools are under performing for whatever reason and allow for performance pay for teachers to be brought in.
Ros Powell said:
yShe has now threatened to sack school Boards if they support their principals/staff in their actions against national standards. How fascist is that! And such arrogance! First of all there's no consultation with educators around national standards, then she refuses to listen to them, now she won't allow them to be trialled.
Let us not forget: Over the last three Labour terms, teaching standards and teacher pedagogy improved more than any other time in our history. We worked incredibly hard to raise standards of literacy & numeracy ( particularly in low decile schools with lots of ESOL students) , to get our schools IT-literate and to ensure our kids were fit - helped by government teaching contracts. Teachers, support staff and principals' salaries became more competitive with the "outside world". Anne Tolley's actions are overturning every gain Labour instigated.
And, as an aside, I wonder if there's anything to measure how much the millions of dollars she's taken from state schools has improved the academic standards of private schools?
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Permalink Reply by John LANGDON on
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Get real...NZ has one of the lowest literacy and numeracy rates in the work force in the OECD.The voters have shown they want standards to be introduced to remedy this.. If Labour wanted a better economic future for the country it too would want an improvement in the current situation...What is Labour now suggesting to remedy the problem,given that it had 9 years in which the problem got worse under its guidance...Thinking of NZ ,rather than point-scoring by careerist Labour politicans, might be a new welcome approach
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Permalink Reply by Matt Belcher on
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John,i disagree totally with you on this.
What exactly did the voters ask for???? Did they ask for a system where half our country has to be classed as stupid so the other half can be classed as not being stupid. Thats what the standards do.
And this will improve literacy how?????
NZ is still classed (currently) as having one of the best education systems in the world, that is why the international fee paying student market is so big.
John LANGDON said:Get real...NZ has one of the lowest literacy and numeracy rates in the work force in the OECD.The voters have shown they want standards to be introduced to remedy this.. If Labour wanted a better economic future for the country it too would want an improvement in the current situation...What is Labour now suggesting to remedy the problem,given that it had 9 years in which the problem got worse under its guidance...Thinking of NZ ,rather than point-scoring by careerist Labour politicans, might be a new welcome approach
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Permalink Reply by Patrick Anderson on
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National standards have been shown to be ineffective in raising literacy or numeracy in children.
We know that some children are being failed by our school system. We know who the children are - in a demographical sense.
Testing will only tell us what we already know. Testing will lead to performance based pay for teachers. It will punish teachers and children in poorer schools. I suspect that National Standards is a tool with which to test the strength of the teacher unions.
Don't be fooled by people with easy answers.
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